Canon R1 & R5 II: Internal ND Filters Confirmed?

Are you a photography enthusiast eagerly awaiting the release of Canon’s next-generation mirrorless cameras? Well, you’re in for a treat! Recent rumors and leaks suggest that the highly anticipated Canon R1 and R5 II may come equipped with internal neutral density (ND) filters. This exciting development could be a game-changer for photographers, as it eliminates the need for external filters and streamlines the entire shooting process. In this blog, we will delve into the rumors surrounding the inclusion of internal ND filters in the Canon R1 and R5 II, discussing the potential benefits they bring to photographers and exploring how this feature could enhance their creative capabilities. So, let’s dive in and discover what the future may hold for Canon’s cutting-edge mirrorless cameras!

Canon R1 & R5 II: Internal ND Filters Confirmed?


Do you remember the camera Insider story from a couple of days ago that said the Canon EOS R5 Mark II is getting internal ND filters? With recent patent filings, this doesn’t seem so wild. Nor is it so wild that the Canon EOS R1 will also get them. Stick around for all the details after this short break, but first, subscribe to this channel for a chance to win a Canon EOS R5. I’ll be giving one away to one lucky subscriber once this channel reaches 100,000 subscribers. Anyone above the age of 18 with a valid mailing address is eligible. Additional Terms and conditions are linked in the description down below.

The Speculation

Two days ago, the camera Insider said that it is now being said that the Canon EOS R5 Mark II will have a built-in ND filter, which is one of the more requested features that people would like to see in Canon EOS R Bodies. But many of you had your doubts. While others didn’t believe that it would happen for technical reasons like nadum. That’s not going to happen with the RF realm, the flange distance is just too short to put an internal ND system between the sensor and the back of the lens.

Sony’s Example

I get it, the Canon EOS R5 Mark II is going to have a relatively small body, similar to that of the Mark 1, and putting in internal ND filters with Ibis does pose a bit of a challenge. However, Sony has shown that at least with Ibis and internal ND filters, that it’s certainly possible with the Sony Murano released a few days ago for pre-order for twenty-five thousand dollars. In fact, it’s something that Canon’s been working on for some time, and we’ve got proof.

The Patents

These seem to be core patent applications describing the built-in ND filter arrangement. As it goes into most detail with respect to the mechanical operation of the ND filter, the detail describes the ND filter controlled by a motor that allows it to swing out of the way of the sensor assembly and to be stored in the rest position between the mount and the grip area.

Why is it Important?

Some of you might still be thinking, “Well yeah, but why is this so important? This is really the realm of videographers, we photographers don’t need this.” And that’s simply not true. All you have to do is look at the comments from my last story covering this, and you’ll see a lot of photographers saying the same thing.

Because there’s one challenge. And if you want to shoot fast wide open at something like f/1.2, f/1.4, f/2 on a bright sunny day, there’s no way you can do that without any sort of ND filter, variable or otherwise. You have to have it there, or otherwise all you’re going to get is this, a white screen without any detail.

For videographers, this is even more important because you’re far more constrained by your settings. So for example, if you’re shooting 30 frames per second, then your shutter must be 1/60th. So your shutter can’t move, it has to match your frame rate due to the rule of 180. So twice the frame rate is where you set your shutter. And then your ISO is usually left to float because you can’t possibly respond to it as quickly. So what control do you have left then? Well, to control the exposure, you’re basically left with the aperture. And that’s a problem.

So if you want to be able to shoot wide open at f/1.2, your exposure saying, “Not a chance, Simon, in this bright sunny weather. You’re an idiot if you think you can do that. You’re going to have to shoot at f/22.” And if you’ve got it, f/29 or f/32. And we know what starts to happen when you shoot at those smaller apertures. You start to have a loss of detail.

Now for video, it’s not as big of a detail or a big problem. However, as you can see with the falls here, I shot this at f/32 with the shutter set to 1/120th. But when doing talking head shots, when doing it outside, shooting at f/2 or under is something that’s preferred. And the only way to do that is with ND filters and having them inside the camera available and ready to go whenever you need it. You don’t have to worry about forgetting them. And not only that, if you buy a new lens, you don’t have to spend several hundred dollars more on ND filters if you own a bunch of lenses, as many of you do.

The Canon EOS R1

For those of you that felt that internal ND filters are something that should come to the Canon EOS R1, Canon rumors discovered that there’s also a linear motor-driven ND filter for a larger one series camera body. The one series camera body version has an ND filter on a set of rails that move the ND filter in and out of the optical path. Well, that sounds pretty fancy, does it? Sounds pretty awesome. But I know what you’re thinking, doesn’t this pose a risk to reliability? Because with all these armatures, with all these rails, with all these moving parts inside the camera, there’s more single points of failure. And so I am a little bit concerned about that. The last thing I would want to see is any of these parts come loose and scratch up the sensor, because boy, would that be an expensive repair. But I’m sure Canon has thought this out.

Final Thoughts

Whether we see this on the Canon EOS R5 Mark II or the Canon EOS R1, these series of patent filings that Canon rumors have drawn to our attention very carefully, and I highly recommend you read their story because there are about five or six separate patents describing how the Canon EOS R5 Mark II and the Canon EOS R1, if they’re not going to be getting variable ND filters internally, at least Canon spent an awful lot of time thinking about how to do it enough to create five or six different patent applications.

So where are we? Just a couple of days ago, the camera Insider posted a story saying that they’ve been told that we can expect to see internal ND filters in the Canon EOS R5 Mark II. But at that point, we hadn’t heard anything else. There was no validation from them from multiple sources or even from Canon rumors. But just two days later, as I suggested, there might be that stories like this quite often shake the rumor mill and things come loose. Peter Peter at Canon rumors came out with a story that I just quoted here in this video, talking about several patent applications, some of them filed just recently, showing that Canon has certainly been working on putting variable ND filters, multiple filters, inside a camera the size of the Canon EOS R5, as well as larger bodies such as the R1 or the R3.

And if it is going to be in smaller bodies, I can bet you anything that the first camera to get it will be a 5 series camera. It’s the only camera that sits below the R3 and the R1. So I highly recommend reading that article from Canon rumors. It provides validation to what the camera Insider said, and it also looks like the camera Insider is starting to become an oracle of things that are supposed to be coming out.

FAQ – Canon R1 & R5 II: Internal ND Filters Confirmed?

1. What are internal ND filters in Canon cameras?

Internal ND filters are neutral density (ND) filters built directly into the camera body. These filters help control the amount of light entering the camera, allowing photographers to reduce the exposure in bright conditions without affecting the image quality.

2. Are internal ND filters confirmed for the Canon R1 & R5 II?

Yes, Canon has officially confirmed the inclusion of internal ND filters in both the Canon R1 and R5 II camera models.

3. What benefits do internal ND filters offer?

Internal ND filters provide several advantages, including:

  • Convenience: With internal ND filters, there is no need to carry and attach external filters, saving time and effort during shooting.
  • Image quality: Since the internal filters are designed specifically for the camera, they ensure optimal image quality and reduce the risk of artifacts or vignetting.
  • Flexibility: The ability to switch between different ND filter strengths without changing external filters offers greater flexibility and shooting freedom.

4. What ND filter strengths will be available in the Canon R1 & R5 II?

The exact specifications of ND filter strengths in the Canon R1 and R5 II have not been disclosed yet. Canon is expected to provide multiple filter strengths, catering to various shooting scenarios.

5. Can the internal ND filters be disabled or removed?

Yes, Canon cameras generally allow users to enable or disable the internal ND filters based on their shooting preferences. However, physical removal of the internal filters is not recommended, as it may compromise the camera’s functionality.

6. Are internal ND filters available in other Canon camera models?

As of now, internal ND filters are primarily present in high-end Canon cameras, such as the Canon EOS R5. However, Canon continues to innovate, and it is possible that future camera models may feature internal ND filters too.

7. How do I control the ND filter settings in Canon R1 & R5 II?

The specific method for adjusting ND filter settings may vary depending on the camera model. However, it is generally done through the camera’s menu settings or a dedicated button/control on the camera body. Consult the camera’s user manual for detailed instructions on navigating and adjusting the ND filter settings.

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